Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-12846745-20140925235943/@comment-5196731-20160118033656

Arend wrote: Also, said List of rumors page only lists one other Rayman "leak", which predates Artsy Omni's leak, so that one shouldn't ruin Rayman's chances either, according to your logic (honestly, it was a pretty dumb one anyway). And no, I really don't know of any other Rayman leaks, and you don't have any evidence of another one either.
 * 1) THEY ARE LITERALLY FAN MADE MODELS CREATED BY THE LEAKERS THEMSELVES. THEY DON'T WORK FOR NINTENDO AS I PROVIDED IN THE LINKS BEFORE#It was an example of your reasoning. Which is apparently: "fake leaks are real whenever it officially happens. It doesn't matter if the source isn't real".
 * 2) when I say I, I only mean myself, not the both of us (in which case I still wouldn't add is since we believe in differnt things), nor the entire Smash community (in which case I still wouldn't add it since you're the only one who believes so, and aside from Omar, I haven't seen anyone else believing this to be true.
 * 3) I thought it didn't need a source per say, considering it went viral just as quickly as the ESRB smash leak with the Duck Hunt duo and such. I mean, it was suddenly all over the place. But the SSBwiki gotcha covered, in case you really want me to provide a source.

1. And Nintendo must have used those models in order to update them so that Lucina, Palutena, Ness and Jigglypuff are confirmed as a real leak that was proven in the end.

2. Doesn't matter if it's an "example", you're still off-topic when you babble about "World War 2".

3. But you are involved into believing what cannot be counted in the ballot, and the "fake leak after the ballot began led to disqualification" thing is the one thing you purposely forgot, meaning that we all should believe that, as Rayman and Shovel Knight are eliminated from the ballot.

And 4. Artsy Omni's leak about Rayman just did ruined Rayman's chance of ever being in Smash. And as I've said before, it doesn't matter if the fake Rayman leak happened before or after the ballot, his chance of being playable is already dead as he is forbidden from the ballot.