Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-12846745-20140925235943/@comment-5196731-20160114082846

Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote:

Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote: 1. Still, Pac-Man and Shulk got confirmed, therefore that leak about them is real, Gematsu or no Gematsu, while the Chrom is fake, and therefore, Chrom is deconfirmed. Your argument is even more flawed than mine would ever be, Arend.

2. Looks to me like Nintendo just did disqualify Rayman and Shovel Knight for being fake leaks. A fake leak is against the rule of the Fighter Ballot, and since they broke the rules, Rayman and Shovel Knight got the one thing they deserve: disqualification.

And there you have it, Arend, after a fake leak, neither Rayman and Shovel Knight would ever be in Smash, not even in the future Smash game (if Sakurai would ever make another Smash game, which I doubt he would). I've said this about a million times now, and yet you still pretend your argument is correct. Also they don't deserve disqualification just because some jerk decided to make a fake leak that includes them. That's absolutely unfair for both the character and the fans. It's irrational, dumb and nonsensical.
 * 1) Pac-Man and Shulk were both in the exact same leak as Chrom. They weren't from separate leaks by Gematsu, but from one single leak. The guesses with Pac-Man and Shulk are correct while the Chrom guess was incorrect, but that doesn't change the fact that they were all in the same leak. Since said leak has Chrom in it, it's fake, but said fake leak had correct guesses, which means fake leaks do not deconfirm characters.
 * 1) There's absolutely no rules on that. You just made that up. The only rule the Fighter ballot has is that the character must be from a video game.

1. The Chrom leak is the one guess that is incorrect, so therefore a fake leak does mean that a character is deconfirmed. You can stop with your false evidence now, and I don't pretend that my argument is correct, I know that my argument is correct.

2. There is one rule now, and that rule is "Any fake leak of a certain character created by a non-Nintendo employee, i.e. Artsy Omni, should consider that character deconfirmed, or disqualified from the fighter ballot after it had begun". Life is never fair, so get used to the fact that both Rayman and Shovel Knight are officially deconfirmed, because of a fake leak. Like, I know you're gonna say that "it's obvious they wouldn't let characters from fake leaks in", despite the fact that it isn't, since Nintendo never talked about fake leaks before. You don't even have a source that Nintendo knows about fake leaks.
 * 1) But if a fake leak deconfirms a character forever, then why is Pac-Man, who appeared in the exact same leak and no other leak, made it into Smash anyway. Same goes for Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac and Villager, who all appeared in the Gematsu leak. See, that is why your theory makes no sense. You think that only one incorrect guess just guarantees that said character will never appear in Smash Bros, yet you're giving the correct ones in the exact same leak a free pass for no reason. So stop pretendng that it does, and that my "evidence" is false (even though it's just obvious observation).
 * 2) As I and Gasd said before, the fighter ballot had no rules about fake leaks. You just made that up. Or do you have an official source? If you do, then I'd like to see it. If you don't, then I'll regard it as a false claim, no matter what you're gonna say

1. Isn't it obvious? The leak about Pac-Man was real enough for him to be confirmed. The leak about Chrom, on the other hand, was so fake that he had to be deconfirmed, unplayable. Once again, Arend, you can quit your false evidence.

2. You can't deny "what is already official", and by "what is already official" I mean "the fact that a character can be disqualified for a fake leak, and he/she are no longer candidates of the fighter ballot". I don't need to show my "source", it's a common fact, no source is necessary for the truth. Of course it's obvious that due to the fake leak, no one from Nintendo would ever confirm a character from that fake leak, not even Sakurai.