Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-12846745-20140925235943/@comment-5196731-20160117233326

Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote:

Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote:

Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote: Hello, Arend? Are you still here? ...Helloooooooo! Sound like you want to be such an attention hogger.

Anyway, I could've sworn that I've heard of an Omar H before, especially one linked to you, but alas, I couldn't find any definite proof. The only indicatin that ti may be you is how similar you both talk, but according to you, it's "outta my mind" (though I have to note that you lied about previous aliases being not related to you before, like Yami9000 on the MLP wiki, but that's beside the point).

And the fact that Omar H is banned and you're not shouldn't be a good reason why he's not you, because:
 * 1) Miiverse is a different community than this Wiki.
 * 2) And if we're going to count different communties anyway, you actually have been banned several times on multiple Wikia wikis, meaning what you said isn't exactly true and only proves you two have something in common.

Also, love how you later added in your question who this guy I spoke of was, even though it wasn't even necessary.

Anyway, you and Omar H are the only two guys I've ever seen that talked about fake leaks meaning disqualification, as I couldn't find any other source. And since you two are being pretty much disagreed on, well, that means you two aren't reliable sources, which in turn means the claim you made is hogwash.

Sorry for the late reply, but here goes. Of course it's out of your mind, me and that Omar H. guy are never the same person, and you can't prove it. Whoever that Omar H. guy is, he must have spoken my language of how logical is my claim, even before he got banned from Miiverse. The only thing that is "hogwash" is you claiming that me and that Omar H. guy are one in the same. Well, you can't prove you aren't the same. So far it's just an unproven guess of mine.

And he must've been banned for a reason. Obviously not for the claims, because I've seen stupider stuff on Miiverse, but I guess because he initiated fights a lot. and seeing the replies on this post, he removes replies he doesn't like a lot. Doesn't sound like a fair-playing guy to me.

And absolutely nothing is logical about your claim. I literally can't find any source where voting for a fake leaked character is against the rules, nor do you even provide a reason why fake leaked characters should be disqualified, or never appear in a Smash game. Like yeah, you say "Rayman cannot appear in Smash because he's in a fake leak", but why is that a valid reason? Why can't a character from a fake leak appear in Smash?

Not to mention that Lucina was "leaked" as early as 2013, which was proven to be just a brawl hack. And yet, Lucina got playable. There's also a Palutena leak which was proven to be fake (using different models and all), and several fake leaks of Ness and Jigglypuff, all three proving further that fake leaks don't deconfirm characters, and proving that your claim is hogwash.

I don't have to prove that he and I aren't the same, I'm not as dumb as you look. True, the leaks of Lucina, Palutena, Ness and Jigglypuff were fake until proven real, which they were real in the end, but not Chrom nor Rayman nor Shovel Knight, they stayed fake.

And FYI, Lucina, Palutena, Ness and Jigglypuff weren't part of the ballot because the ballot didn't even began back then, so they're off the hook and became playable. Captain Falcon just beat Chrom out of the roster, so Chrom wouldn't even be in the ballot to begin with, not even before the ballot itself began. As for Rayman and Shovel Knight, after the ballot began, you and the others were expecting either of them to be confirmed, but now that we saw the fake leaks about Rayman and Shovel Knight, those two are no longer candidates of the ballot, the votes for them are already rejected by Sakurai. In other words, disqualification, as I do believe that Sakurai is the one who rejected the votes. Pretty good reason why he added Bayonetta instead of either Rayman or Shovel Knight. Now it's YOUR claim that is "hogwash", not mine, yours. are you saying I look dumb

And how are the leaks of Lucina, Palutena, Ness and Jigglypuff "real after all" if they were PROVED FAKE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Just because these four characters ended up in Smash DOESN'T MEAN THESE LEAKS ARE PROVEN REAL REAL.

In fact there's evidence that they aren't.

used completely different models in the final game. , for example. has also a few major differences compared to. And as I said before, WAS FROM A BRAWL HACK. Do you really think that Nintendo devote their time in creating fake leaks, let alone mod Super Smash Bros Brawl while working on the sequel game?!

No.

No they don't.

These things are all fan-made. None of them were officially made by Nintendo.

Meaning that fake non-Nintendo leaks don't alter the end result of the game.

And I never even said that these four characters were part of the ballot. It was a follow up to "Why can't a character from a fake leak appear in Smash", because you claimed that they cannot.

And with these four character leaks that were ultimately proven fake, yet the characters themselves appeared in the game anyway, I just proved your claim (that is, the one where you said fake leaked characters cannot appear in Smash) false.

You want to know what I believe cannot be counted for in the ballot? Two things: Rayman and Shovel Knight are neither of these (yes, Rayman was a Trophy, but so was Mewtwo and Lucas). 1. Yes, it does mean that the leaks of Lucina, Palutena, Ness and Jigglypuff are proven real.
 * Characters that already appear in the game with other roles (e.g. Chrom, Ridley, Waluigi (I don't know why you think I still think Chrom will be in Smash. I never said he was viable to begin with, I only defended Rayman and Shovel Knight)).
 * Obvious jokes like Shrek and Goku, and other fourth party characters like LEGO figurines, Twlight Sparkle, Dipper Pines, etc.

2. You said that despite the "fake leaks of the four characters", they still got confirmed in Smash, meaning that thanks to Nintendo, those leaks were proven real in the end, thus disproving the "fake leaks of those four characters". So much for "proving my claim false", because YOUR claim is the false one here, I just proved YOU wrong. Your claim is pointless now, and forever.

And 3. You forgot the third thing: If there is a character with a fake leak AFTER the ballot began, that character is no longer eligible to be voted. In other words, disqualification. And guess what? Rayman and Shovel Knight just happened to break that rule. They're no longer part of the ballot, and that's that.