Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-12846745-20140925235943/@comment-114562-20150307201303

DevilX90 wrote: Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote:

Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote: The Rayman leak is fake, so Rayman will never be DLC after all. Oh hey, it's you again.

Just because one leak is fake doesn't mean the chances are impossible (I believe I told you this earlier on Fantendo). The Gematsu leaks are fake, yet these guessed Wii Fit Trainer, Pac-Man, Villager, Mega Man, Palutena, Mii Fighters and Shulk correctly (not to mention that Greninja is a pokémon from X and Y, which also is one of the guesses).

So just because the Rayman leak is staged doesn't mean that Rayman will never ever be in Smash Bros. It is peculiar that his series got three trophies in the final game, after all. And what about the fact that Chrom was intended to be playable, but he isn't, and he's Robin's Final Smash, instead? The Gematsu leak are officially not to be trusted now that the part where "Chrom will be playable" is fake.

And actually, yes, it really does mean that Rayman will never be playable, because you fell for a trick from that "Creator" who made that fake leak of Rayman. So, bottom line, Rayman is out of the question, end of story. I'm not saying that when the leaks are correct at something, that they can be trusted. I'm saying that when a leak is fake that it doesn't deconfirm anyone. I freaking told you this before, yet you seem to fail to realize what I meant. Instead, you use one character that isn't in to prove that when a leak is false, characters in said leak will never get in, yet ignoring the fact that said fake leak has seven other guesses that GOT in after all.

The Gematsu leak is fake because it said Chrom would be playable yet he isn't, yes, but that doesn't mean EVERYONE in the Gematsu leak will never be in Smash Bros. By your logic, Wii Fit Trainer, Pac-Man, Villager, Mega Man, Palutena, Mii Fighters and Shulk would never be in Smash because the leak has been proven fake, YET THEY ARE STILL IN SMASH.

What I'm saying is that when a leak is fake that it doesn't prove anything but the leak being fake. It doesn't prove that the final product will not contain these elements or future games won't. The only thing that it proves is that the leak itself is fake and nothing else.

You believed the same thing when the Duck Hunt leak was thought to be fake, and I told you the exact same thing as before. It coincidentally happens that the leak was real after all. While that cannot be said for the Rayman leak, his chances are still there.

Also, the fact some salty Smashers falling for a really well-made fake from Artsy Omni, is not a reason why Rayman will never be in Smash. What is Sakurai made a 5th Smash game and Rayman is there? What if they're secretly developing Rayman at the same time as Mewtwo? How would your "reason" disprove any of that? Nope, when the leak is fake, it means that the character will never be playable after all, not even as DLC.

And that one guess where they guessed wrong about Chrom being playable? This officially kills all the trust on the Gematsu leak.

And actually, yes, the fact some salty Smashers, i.e. you, Arend, falling for a fake leak from Artsy Omni IS a reason why Rayman will never be DLC, as we all know that Sakurai would never add him as DLC after one fake leak. Did I mention that Artsy Omni never works for Nintendo? Boy, I can't believe you fell for that, too. So gullible. "Nope, when the leak is fake, it means that the character will never be playable after all, not even as DLC."

Then explain how Shulk got in. He was in the Gematsu leak before said leak was proven false, yet he was officially announced after the leak was proven false.

"And actually, yes, the fact some salty Smashers, i.e. you, Arend, falling for a fake leak from Artsy Omni IS a reason why Rayman will never be DLC, as we all know that Sakurai would never add him as DLC after one fake leak. Did I mention that Artsy Omni never works for Nintendo?"
 * 1) First of all: joke's on you, I didn't 100% believe it in the first place.
 * 2) Why would Sakurai never add rayman after one fake leak? I mean, Shulk got in, even after the Gematsu leak has been proven false. You are implying that Sakurai removes characters after a fake leak unrelated to the real product has been proven fake. That's not how game development works!
 * 3) Artsy Omni not working for Nintendo is not even a reason why Rayman will never be in Smash. The fact that Omni doesn't work for Nintendo makes his fake leak unrelated to the final product, which means that it doesn't prove anything, making it possible for Ray to either be in Smash, or not be in Smash. It doesn't matter if the leak's fake for the DLC, because I can ensure you that it would be exactly the same whether the fake leak has been made ion the first place or not made at all. Also, working for Nintendo or not doesn't make a leak credible or false. Alex Hirsch, creator of Gravity Falls, has made a fake leak of an upcoming episode once. Also, whether Omni works for Nintendo itself or not probably wouldn't affect Super Smash Bros. for Wii U's development at all, because it's being developed by Sora Ltd.