Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-12846745-20140925235943/@comment-5196731-20160113032017

Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote:

Arend wrote:

DevilX90 wrote: 1. Fake leaks just did deconfirmed characters, i.e. Rayman and Shovel Knight. And remember the fake Chrom leak?

2. Oh, but you were expecting Rayman to be confirmed, but nope, fake leak, Rayman deconfirmed, and disqualified from the ballot. The same as Shovel Knight.

3. Well, Rayman games were never released in Japan, so that makes Rayman an Indie character. Ubisoft, the company that owns Rayman, is the total opposite of an indie development team. They're not as big as Nintendo, but they're definitely big.
 * 1) I do remember the Chrom leak: Shulk and Pac-Man were in that same leak. That confirms that fake leaks don't disconfirm characters
 * 2) FAKE LEAKS DON'T EQUAL BALLOT DISQUALIFICATION.
 * 3) This entire point of yours is 100% false. I'll explain why.
 * 4) Rayman games were released in Japan. Famously, Japan's Rayman 2 had many alterations to make Rayman and his allies look more like the good guys (e.g. Rayman's shirt was blue), and Rayman Legends was in fact released by Nintendo in Japan. Rayman Origins was released in Japan too, but only for PS3.
 * 5) an"Indie" game doesn't mean that it wasn't released in Japan. Indie games generally are games created by individuals or smaller companies, generally without a publisher of sorts. Shovel Knight is a perfect example of an indie title because Yacht Club Games is a generally small team of developers. Shovel Knight became a reality in the first place because of crowdfunding, what most indie games go through nowadays.

1. Shulk and Pac-Man were real leaks, meaning that they're confirmed, while Chrom, Rayman, and Shovel Knight were fake leaks, meaning that they're deconfirmed. Real leak = character confirmed, Fake leak = character deconfirmed.

2. Yes, it does. Rayman and Shovel Knight were disqualified for fake leaks.

3. Ah, touche. But still, when it comes to a Rayman leak, fake is fake.
 * 1) How can they be "real leaks" if they're from the exact same leak as Chrom? All three come from a forum post with random guesses by Gematsu, they aren't separate leaks. AKA your argument is flawed.
 * 2) Care to explain how a fake leak that the Nintendo dev team probably doesn't even know about would disqualify a character from the ballot?

1. There is a separate leak now. Like I said, when a leak is real, a character is confirmed. But when a leak is fake, a character is deconfirmed. It doesn't matter if Shulk and Pac-Man are from the "exact same leak as Chrom", both Shulk and Pac-Man are in, as in "confirmed by a real leak", and Chrom is out, as in "deconfirmed by a fake leak".

2. Those fake leaks about Rayman and Shovel Knight weren't even made by Nintendo, so of course they would disqualify both Rayman and Shovel Knight from the ballot. Any character who are exposed as a fake leak should be disqualified.